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  The Summit Charcoal Grill. (Paul Elledge/Weber)

  Toyota has its Lexus. Weber-Stephens, the company behind the ubiquitous kettle grill, has its Summit Charcoal Grill.

  The Summit, unveiled in April, is part grill and part kamado smoker (think Big Green Egg). With a deeper bowl, it looks like a pregnant version of a typical Weber kettle. By giving it air-insulated, double-walled construction for heat retention, a two-position fuel grate for smoking and grilling, and a gas ignition system, Weber no doubt hopes you’ll think it is pregnant with smoking and grilling possibility.

  The question is whether it merits a price that starts at $1,500.

  I tested the Summit over a few days in May. I smoked a brisket, two pork butts and a mammoth beef short rib, grill-smoked two racks of pork ribs and fast-grilled a rib-eye steak. I also grilled eggplant and romaine lettuce, for good measure.

  The Summit held its temperature at a steady 225 degrees for at least 12 hours. Its hinged metal diffuser and hinged cooking grate make adding coals or wood easy, but I added coals only after my fire went out due to a steady, hours-long rain one morning. After going and going (and the rain stopped), the Summit held its temperature for 10 more hours. The heavy-duty vented lid damper makes for extremely responsive cooking; changing temperatures took less than 15 minutes, typically — a boon for hours-long cooking. I have found that it is a lot more challenging to maintain temperature control over periods of time in a standard kettle grill.

  There is always a learning curve in using new equipment, and my brisket, although juicy and crusty, wasn’t quite up to my standards. The rib-eye came out a perfect medium-rare, and, owing to a fuel grate that is about an inch closer to the meat than the grate on a regular kettle, took only a total of 8 minutes (instead of 10 to 12 minutes). The vegetables had a nice char. The short rib was a little underdone, but I blame pilot error; I’d leave it on longer next time.

  Is the Summit worth the money? A kettle (about $150) and a bullet smoker (about $300) would, together, do more or less the same thing, at roughly a third the cost. But in the same way that it is tough to define just how much better a ride a Lexus delivers than a Camry, it is hard to say why the Summit would merit such a higher price tag.

  Maybe it’s the way it holds a temperature. Maybe it is the way it can handle wood chunks and splits. Maybe it is the quality of the sear it creates.

  Maybe it is the combination of all of those things and the general intelligence of the grill. Whatever it is, if you are in the market for an upscale smoker/grill, it’s worth a look.

  Weber Summit Charcoal Grill

  

  If you look at most any list of the best charcoal grills on the market you will typically find towards the top of the list, a Weber kettle grill, and a kamado grill. The Weber representing the more reasonably priced product and the kamado, the most capable. Weber is, of course, recognized as the largest and most well-known charcoal grill manufacturer in the world. In some places, Weber literally means grill, much like Kleenex means tissue.

  The Weber Summit Charcoal Grill is their entry into the world of kamado grills, but with a distinctly Weber approach. This cooker combines the grilling capabilities of a very large kettle grill with the smoking power of the ever popular Weber Smokey Mountain, and it does it with all the bells and whistles that can be added. It also does it at what would appear to be a ridiculous price, starting at $1,500USD. With the features and the size, the Weber Summit is comparably priced, but without the ceramic shell, the question is, is it worth the price?

  • Equally excellent grill and smoker
  • Fantastic cooking abilities
  • Easy ash removal and cleaning
  • Gas powered charcoal ignition system
  • 452 square inches of total grilling/smoking area
  • Porcelain-enameled, air-insulated, double-walled bowl and lid
  • Gas powered charcoal ignition system
  • Two position fuel grate
  • Stainless steel Gourmet BBQ System cooking grates
  • Stainless steel vents and diffuser plate
  • Large ash catcher with easy clean out system
  • Hinged lid assembly
  • Total weight is 111 pounds
  • Stainless steel handles and hardware
  • Made in the USA

  Guide Review - Weber Summit Charcoal Grill

  With a starting price of $1,500USD and a table mounted version well over $2,000USD the obvious question about the Weber Summit Charcoal Grill is, is it worth the price?

  One argument is that for less than half the money of the base unit a person could get a fully feature Weber Performer Grill and the largest of the Weber Smokey Mountain Smokers. Another argument is that for this price one could purchase a very good kamado grill with a table, albeit a small table. So why buy the Weber Summit?

  The Weber Summit Charcoal Grill is a metal, kamado style grill and smoker. Instead of the traditional ceramic body, this unit has an 'air insulated' body, meaning there is an inner and outer body that is separated by a sealed space that promises the same heat retention. Before anyone tries to argue that this won't work, let me assure you that it does. This unit can easily hold low and slow smoking temperatures for well over 10 hours without refueling. Depending on the charcoal and how the fire is built it can go even longer. The design is highly efficient and as a smoker, it has the space (452 square inches) and smoke production capabilities of Weber's best smokers.

  And then there are the features. The typical Weber kettle uses a lot of plated steel and aluminum parts that while durable, are a lower grade of quality. The Weber Summit has the same porcelain coated body, but all the parts, including the cooking grates, vents, and heat diffuser are stainless steel.

  This improves the appearance as much as the quality and are part of the reason for the high price. Add in the gas powered charcoal ignition system and this unit has everything to get it fired up, keep it going, and be easily cleaned.

  This charcoal grill and smoker also offers a hinged and spring loaded lid that is easy to lift (though making a rotisserie kit impossible) and Weber's Gourmet BBQ System cooking grates. This stainless steel, hinged grate has a removable center section that can be replaced with a wide range of accessories to give the grill greater versatility. From the pizza stone to an Ebelskiver pan. Of course, all these accessories are sold separately and range in price from $35USD to $55USD.

  This is a kamado grill. It can do anything that most any kamado grill does with the addition of a premium cooking space (the typical kamado is much smaller and to get this size requires a pretty hefty downpayment).

  It is excellently constructed and does everything it promises. While there is a small learning curve, it is very small and firing it up a couple of times is sufficient training. Personally, I don't find this unit to be as attractive as most of the kamado grills in this price range, but that is a matter of taste.

  Ultimately, this is a bit of an aspirational product and Weber knows it. This cooker is not going to be sold in your local hardware store or in the more general online retailers. It is a specialty market item for people who have the money, like the Weber brand, and want something that can do everything. It is not a luxury item in appearance, but it is a luxury item in capability and capacity. It can grill steaks at the same high temperatures as a kamado and quickly be dialed down to a low temperature to smoke a couple of briskets. It promises to do it all and for the most part, it delievers.

  Weber Summit Charcoal Grill

  

  Features & Specification

  Meet the Weber Summit Charcoal Grill, a powerhouse grill designed to smoke, bake, grill, and sear with ease. Weber's iconic "kettle" grill has been the king of charcoal grilling for years. The Summit Charcoal Grill builds on that foundation and takes it to the next level. The grill body and lid are double walled and air-insulated for heat retention. It is equipped with propane ignition for easy starting. Reviews for this grill are incredible with some users cooking for over 48 hours on one load of charcoal and producing excellent food time after time.

  • Stainless steel hinged cooking grate
  • Porcelain enamel body construction
  • Double-walled bowl and lid for heat retention
  • Stainless steel hinged diffuser plate for indirect grilling and smoking

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  Weber Summit Charcoal Grill: It Grills, It Smokes, And It's Expensive.

  Is It Really The #GrillofaLifetime?

  Something Is Coming

  On March 2, 2016, a Weber dealer in Wichita, Kansas was the first to let the world know about a new Weber product with this single sentence:

  Something is coming.

  Two days later, on March 4, Weber-Stephen Products LLC made their first official announcement on Facebook and Twitter:

  Coming April 6! #GrillofaLifetime

  Weber's Teaser Campaign Freaks-Out The Rabid, Obsessed Fan Boys

  Over the course of the next month, Weber teased us with a series of videos and images on Facebook and Twitter. The freelance Creative Director and writer behind the videos, John Angelopulos, posted on his blog:

  "Weber was about to launch it's biggest grill innovation in over 20 years. To match the loyalty of Weber's hardcore fan base, we teased up the reveal with a social campaign that tapped into their freakish obsession with grilling."

  The Associate Creative Director/Art Director for the videos, Matthew Sharpe, blogged the following:

  "Weber has a lot of loyal customers. It's actually fair to call them rabid and obsessed. They are in love with how well these grills can grill. So what happens when they decide to launch a new grill that will change the game all together? We'll see April 6, but first we had to tease and watch the fan boys freak out."

  Do some of us have a rabid, freakish obsession with Weber grills? Yes, we do. Do we love Weber grills? Absolutely. So if you were following the campaign online and felt your loyalty to Weber was being played. well, yes, that's exactly what was happening.

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  Looking High & Low For Details

  I looked high and low for leaked photos, specs, schematics, and owners manuals. but I didn't find any. I've got to give credit to Weber, they did a good job of keeping the product details under wraps until the very end. There wasn't the epic fail for this product that occurred in Fall 2013 when a European Weber dealer published a photo of the yet-to-be-announced 14.5" Weber Smokey Mountain Cooker. followed by Weber accidentally posting the cooker's parts schematic on their support website!

  Still, there were tantalizing clues swirling around the conversation on The Virtual Weber Bulletin Board prior to the April 6 announcement:

  • P eople who initially signed up for Weber's product announcement e-mail list received a confirmation from the "Weber Summit Charcoal mailing list".
  • A few dealers announced they would be revealing "the new Weber Summit Charcoal Grill" at their stores on April 6.
  • People spoke with individuals having knowledge of the product who said it would be a two-layer, air-insulated metal grill with gas assist lighting, a hinged heat deflector for indirect cooking, and a top vent daisy wheel that pops up for increased airflow for high-temp grilling.
  • We heard there would be a $1,500 base model and a $2,000 Performer-like table-mounted version.

  April 6, 2016: The Big Reveal

  Weber announced the new Summit Charcoal Grill and Summit Charcoal Grilling Center on April 6, 2016 at 9:00 am Central Time via their website, social media postings, and direct e-mails.

  

  

  Here are the specs:

  Cooking Area: 452 square inches

  Construction: Heavy-duty steel cart frame; One-Touch™ cleaning system; removable, high-capacity aluminum ash catcher; wire bottom shelf; locking caster(s); easy open lid hinge; Rapidfire® lid damper; stainless steel wire basket (Grilling Center only); weather-protected CharBin™ storage container (Grilling Center only); diffuser plate storage area (Grilling Center only).

  Features: Built-in lid thermometer; tool hooks (3); owner’s guide; limited warranty; Gourmet BBQ System™ hinged cooking grate; stainless steel front handle.

  Cooking System: Stainless steel hinged cooking grate; porcelain-enameled, air-insulated, double-walled bowl and lid; stainless steel air insulated hinged diffuser plate; two position fuel grate; slow cook, smoke bowl vent setting; Snap-jet™ gas ignition system.

  Weber offers the following accessories to go with the Summit Charcoal Grill:

  Owner's Manual & Assembly Instructions

  Want to see how the new Weber Summit Charcoal grills are put together and how Weber suggests they be operated? Just download the owners manual.

  

  Product Photos & Video

  Here are more photos and a great video of the Summit Charcoal Grill. Some are courtesy of Weber's media relations department, some are screen shots from videos on Weber.com, and the one of the grate extender is from Mike Lang of AnotherPintPlease.com.

  

  Summit Charcoal Grill

  

  Summit Charcoal Grilling Center

  

  Ribs laid flat on 24" cooking grate

  

  Optional expansion grilling rack

  

  Spring-loaded lid hinge

  

  Adjustable charcoal grate in upper position for grilling

  

  Moving charcoal grate to lower position for smoking

  

  Removable hinged, insulated heat deflector plate for smoking

  

  Snap-jet gas ignition system

  

  Rapidfire lid damper pops open to increase airflow

  

  Lid profile view

  

  Open lid reveals double-walled air insulated lid and body

  

  Overhead view of Grilling Center work surface

  

  Storage area below Grilling Center for Gourmet BBQ System parts

  As with any new Weber model, availability of the Summit Charcoal Grill will be limited for some period of time as inventory builds in the retail pipeline. At the time of writing, Weber is making the grill available at a select number of retail outlets; check the Weber Dealer Locator for a dealer near you (select "Summit Charcoal Grill" or "Summit Charcoal Grilling Center" from the dropdown selector).

  Why Did Weber Make This Grill? What's The Big Deal?

  T his is the big question. why did Weber come out with the Summit Charcoal Grill, and what does it offer that you can't find in existing Weber grills or in competitive offerings?

  The "why" is that Weber wants to compete in the profitable, high-end charcoal grill market that is currently owned by the Big Green Eggs and Kamados of the world, in the same way they already compete in the high-end gas grill market.

  

  The "what" lies in the ability of this grill to be equally proficient in both grilling and smoking. The classic Weber kettle is a great "hot & fast" grill, but not a great smoker. Yes, you can use it for smoking, but with some effort. The WSM is a great "low & slow" smoker, but not a great grill. So the Weber Summit Charcoal Grill attempts to do both things very well, to offer the best of both worlds in a single unit, and thus take on the likes of Big Green Egg and Kamado Joe head-on.

  Leveraging their history of metal work, Weber is relying on double-walled, air-insulated, porcelain-enameled steel to create efficiencies and performance similar to ceramic cookers, but in a lighter weight package and with the supposed ability to recover more quickly when overheated than ceramics. The design allows higher temps for grilling and more efficient charcoal use for smoking, allowing 10-12 hour cook times with less charcoal than we're used to using in the WSM. The adjustable height charcoal grate moves the coals up closer to the meat for grilling and down lower for barbecuing. An air-insulated diffuser plate can be inserted for indirect cooking or removed for direct grilling. The Rapidfire lid damper offers traditional Weber daisy wheel control, but can pop open during fire-up so the grill reaches 550°F in 20 minutes for grilling. There's ease of charcoal lighting with a gas assist propane lighter. The whole thing rolls around on wheels, there's accessories storage, and on the Grilling Center version, onboard charcoal storage. All this in a package that will not crack, that weighs less and is easier to move and transport than ceramic cookers, and at a comparable price to ceramics.

  Add the One-Touch system for easy ash removal and the Weber Gourmet BBQ System for wok cooking, cast iron cooking, Korean barbecue, pizza stone and more, and you begin to understand the value proposition offered by the Weber Summit Charcoal Grill.

  Is It Worth The Money?

  Value is in the eye of the beholder. Weber fans have never seen a Weber charcoal grill in the $1,500-$2,000 price range before, and to be honest, it freaks out some people. It's hard to know how much of the price is for product and how much is for prestige. But we are used to Big Green Eggs costing $1,100 before all the necessary add-ons, and we are familiar with the Weber Summit gas grill starting at $1,500 while the proficient Weber Genesis gas grill starts for less than half that amount. So I think we're in an "adjustment period" where people are getting to know this new grill and its capabilities and deciding whether or not they will become comfortable with the pricing. Only time will tell if enough people find value at these prices to make the Summit Charcoal Grill a success.

  Having said that, the price of this grill is clearly not for everyone, and I don't expect to see lots of people putting their grill and smoker collection up for sale in order to buy a Summit Charcoal Grill. If you're new to the hobby and looking to save money, for $800 you can buy both the top of the line Weber Performer Deluxe and the excellent 22.5" WSM, assuming you have room for both, and still have $700 leftover to purchase your charcoal stockpile.

  Does The Summit Charcoal Grill Replace The WSM?

  No, it does not. Weber does not intend for the Summit Charcoal Grill to replace the WSM, and based on price alone, it's unlikely to do so. But the Summit might be a good choice for someone with deep pockets wanting to buy a single cooker that's good at both high-temp grilling and low-temp smoking.

  The 24" cooking grate with optional extender grate should come close to the capacity of a 22.5" WSM and exceeds the capacity of a 18.5" WSM. The fuel efficiency of the unit, due to its insulated design, is an advantage over the thin-walled WSM. The Summit's gas ignition system lights charcoal more easily than using a Weber chimney starter in the WSM. And don't forget, unlike the WSM, the whole thing rolls around on wheels.

  On the other hand, upon initial inspection, servicing the charcoal and water pan appears somewhat more difficult in the Summit than in the WSM (although adding charcoal might not be necessary in some cases due to better fuel efficiency). The Summit does not have an access door like the WSM, so water must be serviced through the hinged cooking grate (if water is used at all in this grill) and fuel through both the hinged grate and hinged diffuser plate. There's even a new charcoal rake tool for making the task easier, so it must not be that easy to begin with. It's the access door that makes these tasks easy in the WSM. but the door fits poorly on many units, so lack of a door may be counted as an advantage for the Summit.

  Unlike the WSM, the Summit cannot easily break down into pieces for transport. The Summit would be more challenging to transport to a barbecue competition than a WSM, especially if moving it by yourself. And there's the issue of price—you can buy five 18.5" WSMs for the price of just one Weber Summit Charcoal Grill.

  At some point, I would like to take the Summit Charcoal Grill for a test drive and compare its operation and performance with the WSM. If I ever get a chance to do so, I'll be sure to write about it here.

  Photographs of Weber Summit Charcoal Grill and Summit Charcoal Grilling Center: 2016 by Weber-Stephen Products LLC.

  Photograph of Weber Summit grate extender: 2016 by Mike Lang of AnotherPintPlease.com.

  

  

  

  

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  Weber-Stephen

  Weber-Stephen is one of the oldest and most respected manufacturers of BBQ equipment and related accessories in the world. Weber grills and smokers cook beautifully and have great features that are clever, effective and easy to use. As popularity and demand for BBQ gear grows worldwide, Weber continues to earn their long standing reputation for quality, durability and outstanding customer service and support, (7 days a week from 7am to 9pm CST), in an increasingly competitive environment. Even in this crowded marketplace, many consumers are still willing to pay more for the Weber name and they are rarely disappointed. They make a variety of cookers and smokers. Their iconic black charcoal kettles are known throughout the world. Indeed Weber is expanding globally.

  Weber-Stephen was family owned since it was founded in 1952 by George Stephen. At the end of 2010 the Stephen family sold a majority stake to Chicago investment group BDT Capital Partners. In 2012, Weber settled a class action suit out of court regarding their use of the phrase, "Made in USA". Weber previously qualified the "Made in USA" statement by specifying their products are assembled in the USA with some components that are sourced globally. Here is an excerpt from Weber's statement "Weber believes that because all Weber grills and the disputed accessories are designed and engineered in the USA, and all grills save for one line [Spirit]* are manufactured and assembled in the USA using component parts primarily made in the USA, it did nothing wrong and therefore has valid defenses to plaintiff's claims. The court has not held a trial or ruled in favor of either party on any disputed issues. Weber and the plaintiff have agreed to settle the matter to avoid the costs of continued litigation." As a result of this suit, Weber can no longer claim to be made in America.

  Things change, but we believe Weber's commitment to quality and innovation has not.

  The biggest barrier for many folks is price. Webers are not cheap, but when you consider that they last decades, the price is easy to justify. In fact, when you consider the fact that some cheap grills fall apart after three years or so, Webers might be considered a bargain.

  Our main complaint: All Webers have the obligatory bi-metal dial thermometer in the hood that gives you a ballpark reading of what the temperature is high above the meat. Since we cook on the grates, though, it's always better to bring your own digital thermometer and place a probe there. It would be nice if they would go digital in the digital age and it appears with their acquisition of iGrill digital thermometers, this is begining to change.

  *At the very end of 2016 Weber introduced their new line of Genesis II gas grills to replace the popular Genesis series. Genesis II is made in China. Genesis II LX is still made in Palatine, IL.

  Weber Charcoal Grills

  In 2015 Weber changed the names of several popular charcoal grills and added a few new features. Don't worry though, they are still the iconic kettles you grew up with. These classic grills have played a big part in BBQ history and helped spread the joy of outdoor cooking across America and beyond. The 22.5" kettle is by far the most popular backyard grill in the world for under a hundred dollars. The body and lid are pressed from solid sheets of steel so there are no welds to rust, and coated with a durable powder coated baked on porcelain enamel that lasts for decades. The lower intake vents double as an ash collection system and the three legs with two wheels make rolling it around a snap. It is lightweight, there are few parts, and simplicity reigns. The lids fit tightly so oxygen control, and therefore heat control, is very good. And, with the exception of the Ranch Kettle, they are inexpensive.

  AmazingRibs.com science advisor, Dr. Greg Blonder, observes, "Most people believe the Weber is a parabolic reflector, focusing heat emitted by the coals directly on the grill. A parabolic reflector is only effective when the heat source is tiny, intense and located at the focal point. This is not true in the case of the Weber, where the heat source is a sheet of coals spread over a large area. On the other hand, the Weber gets many things right. While the parabola won't create a beam of infra-red energy, the high almost vertical side walls reflect the infra-red image of the coals from side to side- like images of your head pinging back and forth between two mirrors at the barbershop. So this 'reflection gallery effect' does increase the heat intensity a bit compared to cooking over an open pit, where heat emitted to the sides is lost. The system is efficient, burning a minimum number of briquets during cooking." Probably no other single invention has influenced the American diet more since the invention of the electric refrigerator.

  Weber Charcoal Grills are offered in four basic configurations: the small, portable Smokey Joe Series, the larger One-Touch kettles on three legs, the Performer Series mounted on carts and the oversize Ranch Kettle. They also offer three models of the popular Weber Smokey Mountain smokers. In 2016 they introduced Weber Summit Charcoal Grills, multifunction cookers that are effective smokers and grills under one hood.

  Gold Medal

  

  

  Introduced on 4/6/2016, the Weber Summit Charcoal Grill is a radical departure from George Stephen's original Weber Kettle and Weber's first major upgrade to the kettle in decades. It is bigger, badder and more versatile with a price tag to match. Aimed squarely at people who are serious about both grilling and smoking and priced to compete with high end charcoal grills, it carries the Summit name that adorns their top of the line gas grills. It is at once a superb high temp searing grill even better than the original kettle, and an effective dedicated low and slow indirect heat smoker reminiscent of a kamado. So is it a kamettle? Kettlelado? Here it is beside the classic 22" Weber Kettle.

  

  There are two models with the same kettles in different carts. Our test model, provided by Weber, was the "Summit Charcoal Grill", mounted on a sturdy three legged stand with two large plastic wheels and one locking caster. A triangular storage shelf rests at the bottom. MSRP is $1699, but most sellers will go with the Minimum Advertised Price of $1,499, comparable to a Big Green Egg XL kamado with a stand and diffuser plate at over $1,500 list. The "Summit Charcoal Grilling Center" has a large cart on the side with a stainless steel work surface, a lower shelf, a slide out basket, a coal storage bin, on top of two large plastic wheels and two locking casters. Here again the MSRP is $2299, but street price is $1,999, comparable to a BGE with a cart. Here is a video of our test unit and a picture of the cart version.

  

  Summit Charcoal Grills are double walled and air insulated. Many kamados are heavy ceramic ovens with thick walls that hold temps steady for long durations, a blessing if you nail the desired temp, a curse if you overshoot because they take forever to cool down. With air insulation between the outer and inner walls, Summits hold temps well yet they can switch gears much faster than ceramic or fiberglass insulated kamados, providing both agility and forgiveness when temperature changes are necessary.

  Summit's outer body is Weber's signature black porcelain-enameled coated steel that has proven it's durability for more than 60 years. The lining of the lower bowl is also black porcelain-enameled steel. It terminates, open-ended, at the lower coal grate position allowing hot air to be trapped between the outer and inner walls. The inner wall of the lid is aluminum and there is also an air gap between it and the outer wall. Though considerably lighter than a ceramic dome, Summit still employs a heavy duty spring assisted hinge making it easy to open and leave open. A gasket made of thin stainless steel thread woven into a braid runs along the lip and seals the top and bottom halves.

  One new feature that really got us stoked is the movable charcoal grate. It can sit at the bottom directly above the air intake dampers for medium temperature cooking, or be raised to four inches below the cook surface for hot grilling. With a couple of layers of briquets, you can have scorching infrared heat within 2" or less of your steak. We've long wished for Weber to provide a way of bringing the coal closer to the cook surface for improved searing. This design, coupled with the hinged stainless steel cooking grate allows you to easily add more charcoal and features "Weber's Original Gourmet Barbecue System" which has a removable round center that can be replaced with various inserts like a pizza stone, griddle or wok. Click here to learn why we love thin stainless steel rod grates better than any other, even cast iron. For those who prefer a standard 24" stainless grate, Click here to check out the Big Green Egg 24" Stainless Steel Cooking Grid.

  

  

  A slick "Rapidfire" damper crests the dome. It functions like a standard Weber disc-shaped damper but it is on a hinge and can be flipped up and out of the way for maximum exhaust to increase temps rapidly in conjunction with the lower vents. When we first fired up Summit the damper was stiff and was difficult to spin, but after three or four cooks, it worked perfectly. Weber said they had not encountered this issue on their test units, and indeed, previous to receiving our test model, we cooked on Summits at the Weber Grill Academy and they worked fine.

  

  Both models include a piezo electric "Snap-Jet Gas Ignition System" that runs off a 16 oz. propane cylinder to start your charcoal with a gas flame. The gas ignition burner is located just beneath the lower charcoal grate. It can be used to start coal with the grate in either the upper or lower position, but burn times are slightly different: 7 to 10 minutes lower grate position, 12 to 14 minutes upper grate position. You always leave the lid up during ignition. After turning off the burner, you close the lid and pre-heat.

  

  Packaging was excellent. One learns a great deal about a cooker during assembly. The elegant design and quality construction of the Summit Charcoal Grill was evident at every step. Warranty is 10 years on the bowl and lid (no rust though/burn through), 5 years on stainless steel cooking grate and One-Touch System (no rust though/burn through), 5 years for plastic components and 2 years on all remaining parts.

  Grilling with the charcoal grate in the upper position is very similar to grilling on a standard Weber 22" kettle, only a lot hotter because the charcoal is much closer to the food. Grilling with the charcoal in the lower position is more like the 22" kettle. The 24" wide cooking surface provides a surprising increase in capacity, and makes 2-zone setup really easy. We consider 2-zone cooking a crucial technique for outdoor cooking and it is our biggest complaint about most round kamados. Because their cooking surface is smaller and the charcoal is farther from the food, they are not well suited to this method.

  Because the coals are so close to the meat you need to make sure they are distributed evenly, and if some coals are burning red hot while others are just getting started - you got hot spots. We made this mistake when testing it with chicken wings and as a result had to move them around a little to get even cooking and crisping.

  But we were in for a real treat when it came time to reverse sear 2" thick steaks. Click here to learn about Reverse Searing Steak and 2-Zone Cooking. With the coal grate up high, we piled two scoops of charcoal on one side for hot direct radiant heat and left the opposite side empty for a warm indirect zone. We slowly cooked our thick steaks to about 110°F internal temp over indirect heat, then seared the snot out of them over the charcoals, flipping often to create an even dark brown crust. As eagerly anticipated, the red hot coals just 2 to 3" inches beneath the meat browned the steaks beautifully.

  

  Kamado cookers typically use a ceramic disc between the charcoal and the cook surface to block direct radiant heat and even out temps for low and slow cooking, especially smoking. Weber reimagines the diffuser as a double walled hinged stainless steel disc. The hinged sides allow easy access to tend the fire and add charcoal.

  

  Weber wants to ensure success right out of the box for new owners so the manual offers detailed instructions for direct heat grilling, indirect heat grilling, and smoking. It provides a "Charcoal Quantity for Smoking & Cooking Times" chart that lists instructions for various types and weights of meat. They give, "guidelines rather than hard and fast rules". We prepared a pork butt and, referencing the manual, set our sights for 8 to 12 hours of smoking with 2.75 cups of charcoal and 5 wood chunks. After running the ignition burner for 7 minutes we scattered the charcoal, tossed on the wood, installed the diffusion plate, positioned a water pan in the center of the plate, filled it with boiling hot water, installed the grate and placed a digital thermometer probe off center next to the meat. We closed the lid with the Rapidfire damper down and the intake vents open all the way. Following instructions, when the needle hit the 225°F to 275°F range we moved the intake vent to the "Smoke" setting. For the upper damper the manual instructs, "rotate the Rapidfire lid damper accordingly to maintain recommended smoke temperature." We took a chance at setting it halfway open. Within 20 minutes the temp climbed to 300°F on our probe. After some fiddling around, we decided to treat Summit like a kamado and shut both dampers down considerably. This is tricky with the lower damper as you can't see the vent openings, so it's a good idea to familiarize yourself with how far you can go without shutting it off completely. We settled on positioning it slightly to the left of the smoke mark. The upper damper ended up open about one third.

  The temp never got out of control, but it was difficult to nail our desired target of 225°F without more practice. Summit seemed comfortable running in the 250° range. The medium size butt was done at 10 hours. After removing, we took a peek at the fuel. Surprisingly, there was nothing left but crumbs, yet the temp had not dropped. The duration fell within Weber's projection of 8 to 12 hours and, had we started with lower temps, it might have gone longer. The pork was delicious, very moist with beautiful bark.

  

  Armed with this knowledge we went for a second round with no meat. This time we chose the maximum charted duration of 12 to 18 hours using 3.25 cups of coal. After closing the lid, we closely watched the built-in thermometer. As soon as it hit the low smoke range of 225°, we moved the lower arm just left of the smoke mark, and set the upper damper to one third open. It ran a little hot, at one point reaching 260°. After another stretch of trying to finesse damper settings, we went back to the beginning: lower vents set just left of the smoke mark, (see left), and upper at one third. The temp settled in at 245° and stayed steady. Before trying this, know your bottom vents. If you go too far to the left of the smoke mark, you'll shut off air intake and temperature will plummet. Without replenishing coal, Summit ran for about 13 hours.

  Obviously, if one adds more coal, the duration will increase. Since Weber provides easy access to the fire via hinged cooking grate and diffuser plate, we got up early the following day for one more test with a scheduled fuel stop. Once again we used 3.25 cups of coal, burned the ignitor for 7 minutes, then went off script from Weber's directions and shut the lower vents down to just left of the smoke mark and upper vent one third open. Just like with a kamado, we let the temp come up slowly into Weber's smoke range. Temp was more moderate and settled at around 235°. Several hours into the test we used One-Touch to clear the ash, and then flipped up the grate and diffuser to add a couple handfuls of coal to each side. At some point after refueling, temps started to climb and we had to shut down the top vent to a sliver. Ultimately it ran about 15 hours, long enough for a brisket with a long stall. In the graph below you can see it is pretty steady with minor fluctuations due to fiddling with the vents and refueling. With practice I am sure we can even out the bumps. Pretty impressive.

  

  Other experiments await exploration, such as using firestarters instead of the gas ignitor to create a smaller initial fire. And Weber provides a built in port for thermostat temperature controllers like the popular BBQ Guru. Thermostat controllers become your smoke babysitter for long cooks, and are especially useful for ones that go overnight. You place a probe near the meat and close all the air intakes except one. The probe talks to a fan that goes over the open vent which turns on and off regulating the oxygen supply to the coals. They control the temp very effectively. Click here to check out our Temp Controller Reviews.

  Although prices are in line with Summit gassers and premium quality kamados on carts, they're a big leap up from the kettles we know and love. Many who already smoke and grill on their kettles will shrug and wonder why spend more. At the end of the day, it's true that a regular classic Weber kettle can grill and smoke, but the new Summits are just plain bigger and better in every way. You get more capacity, ease of use and more versatility. It actually is a dedicated charcoal smoker by design, and we love the adjustable coal grate that burns directly under the cook surface for better searing. No doubt these new Charcoal Summits will shake up the backyard cooker market and you can bet kamado makers are winding up their counter punches.

  Unlike Summit gassers, these new coal burners will not be sold in big box hardware stores. At least for now Summit Charcoals are only available through indy dealers. As mentioned above, MSRP is $1699, but street price is $1499. Scroll down for our Where To Buy Section to get yours.

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  Big Green Egg vs. Weber Summit Charcoal Grill (Reviews / Ratings / Prices)

  Start finding answers in our Resource Center full of Videos, Buying Guides and Checklists

  

  Weber has just started to manufacture a hybrid gas and charcoal grill. If you have never cooked with charcoal or wood, it is incredibly flavorful. Gas grills are popular, because they are fast. By combining both, you have great flavor, texture and speed.

  However, the Big Green Egg has become incredibly popular and should also be considered. Its ceramic body can cook almost anything.

  So which one is better? That really depends on how you cook. We will look at both companies, both products and then compare at the end.

  Big Green Egg

  

  Note: We no longer carry The Big Green Egg

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  The Big Green Egg company was founded in 1974. The company is based in Georgia with manufacturing in Mexico.

  The Big Green Egg seems to have a certain following among cooking enthusiasts. Back in ancient civilization Egyptians cooked in ceramic dome shaped vessels. The GI's also brought the ceramic cookers back from Japan and created demand for the modern Big Green Egg.

  Ceramics is one of the most sought out cooking methods. It creates a natural convection environment and cooks food effectively, fast, and evenly.

  The Big Green Egg uses burning wood chips, rather than gas.The wood chips are more natural and also have the added advantage of adding flavor to the foods. It is also one of the most versatile grills on the market. You can not only grill, but slow cook, bake, smoke, roast, and more.

  

  The Big Green Egg is available in seven sizes with a lifetime warranty. At first I have to admit, I thought it looks kind of small, but you’d be surprised at how much can be cooked.

  The Big Green Egg is the best cooking device of its kind, because of the patented components and state-of the-art ceramic technologies. It provides improved insulation, thermal shock tolerance and material strength to its ceramic components.

  With the Big Green Egg, comes green egg terminology that owners become accustom too; like “Burping” the egg, or the Egg “Nest”. The Nest is the stand that the Egg can sit in to keep the unit freestanding on a deck.

  You do have to learn how to use it as it is different. The term “burping”, for example, is used to reduce flare ups when opening the top. Rather than opening the lid really fast, just slowly open the lid, to allow for the heat to slowly escape and not cause flair up.

  As we have said, ceramics are not the same as regular outdoor grills.

  Watch features of The Big Green Egg here:

  Weber Grills

  

  Weber grills have been around since 1952. They originated in Chicago, IL where George Stephen Sr. created a grill out of a marine buoy. That became the inspiration of the Weber Genesis.

  Weber is primarily known for their gas grills. They do have a line of smokers, portables, and charcoal grills as well. The Summit Charcoal is brand new as of May 2016.

  Weber Summit Charcoal Grill

  

  The Summit, is part grill and part smoker with a deep bowl. It looks like a fatter version of a typical Weber kettle grill. The Summit Charcoal grill is air-insulated, double-walled construction for heat retention and safety.

  It will also keep the grill 50% cooler than the internal temperature, a two- position fuel grate for smoking and grilling, and a gas ignition system for speed. The kettle is available in two sizes, 16" or 22".

  The Weber is designed to provide precise control and hold steady temperatures for what the company claims will last through more than 10 hours of cooking.

  It also incorporates many unique features including multi-zone heat options, a hinged diffuser plate, a very impressive two-position fuel grate, an insulated lid and deeper bowl for less charcoal consumption and better heat retention. It also has a slow cook/smoke bowl damper set-up that allows for three bottom vent positions.

  Additionally, the Weber Summit charcoal grills feature a Gourmet BBQ System cooking grate. A hinged cooking grate that features a removable center piece designed to fit a variety of Weber accessories including a wok, a griddle, and a poultry roaster.

  The cost of the Weber is slightly higher than a comparable sized Big Green Egg, but the Weber has many more standard accessories and weighs a lot less than the Big Green Egg.

  Which Should You Buy?

  I would have reflexively said the Big Green Egg because it can certainly do more. Then I saw our chef cook a watermelon and feta salad on the Weber Summit, so I am not as sure.

  It depends on how you want to cook. The Big Green Egg is a wonderful cooking product, but there is a learning curve. You do not break out the wood chips immediately and just cook with the Egg. You need to learn how to use it, burp it, and time your food accordingly.

  From that standpoint, the Weber will be faster, because of its gas tank. The charcoal/wood chips provides flavor along with the speed of gas. The Weber Summit is easier to use than the Big Green Egg.

  Both are great, but the Weber is more simple.

  Need help choosing a BBQ grill? Get the Yale BBQ Grill Guide with features, BTU outputs as well as detailed profiles of all the major grills. Well over 165,000 people have read a Yale Guide.

  

  William Hanley

  William Hanley is an appliance sales consultant at Yale Appliance + Lighting. Before joining Yale, William worked for twenty years in jewelry sales and is a lifelong Patriots and RedSox fan.

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